[DVBC] First aid training

Bob Curtiss rouleur at bobcurtiss.net
Tue May 9 13:16:39 EDT 2006


I haven't been on any rides yet with DVBC, so please excuse my  
ignorance if this is a naive question:

Does DVBC require ride participants to sign a waiver at the start of  
each club ride?  I know that WCBC does this. Wouldn't that take care  
of the liability question?

~Bob

On May 9, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Dave Trout wrote:

> I really think that this whole first aid training thing could lead  
> to a liability nightmare in spite of the Good Samaritan Law.  Once  
> you require, provide or encourage ride leaders to take any sort of  
> training courses they could, in the eyes of the law, become  
> professional ride leaders i.e. held to a higher level of  
> responsibility.  I have long thought that even the words Ride  
> Leader could be misused because it infers some responsibility.  We  
> are more like Ride Facilitators - we plan the ride but everyone is  
> on their own and responsible for themselves.  When we ride together  
> we are just a bunch of people doing what we like to do together.   
> If one of us gets hurt, call the professionals.  I do think  
> everyone should have at least minimal first aid training as a  
> matter of course, but the club should stay out of it.
> Dave
>
>
>
> Douglas Bower wrote:
>> Dom,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have always thought everyone should be trained in first aid.   
>> Whether you are involved in the DVBC or not a good understanding  
>> of first aid can help you throughout your life.  The more riders  
>> that are trained in First Response First Aid the better.  As for  
>> liability, the Good Samaritan Law protests people from liability  
>> in the event of a bad outcome as long as treatment is limited to  
>> training.  For example, if you have been trained in Rescue  
>> Breathing you shouldn’t be performing an emergency tracheotomy.
>>
>> I think the Red Cross has a program that teaches First Aid to  
>> organizations like the DVBC.  I will look it up and see what  
>> information I can come up with.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve, I hope you are feeling better soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> bounces at list.dvbc.org] On Behalf Of domzdvbc at att.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:48 AM
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>> Subject: [DVBC] First aid training
>>
>>
>>
>> Good morning, everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> As you may know, the DVBC's 2005 Rookie of the Year suffered a  
>> fall this past weekend near Kelly Drive in Phila. According to  
>> reports, he suffered a fractured rib and a broken elbow. If you  
>> see this message, Steve, I hope you recover quickly!
>>
>>
>>
>> We've had similar incidents during the past year where fortunately  
>> a participant of the ride was a physician or other healthcare  
>> professional. But should we count on luck (or a cell phone signal)  
>> when help is needed?
>>
>>
>>
>> A concerned DVBCer has raised a question about first aid training.  
>> How many ride leaders have basic first aid and/or CPR training? Do  
>> you think ride leaders would continue to list club rides if they  
>> thought they'd have to provide first aid to a fallen rider? Or do  
>> you think the liability issues would cause the number of rides to  
>> plummet?
>>
>>
>>
>> Many club members have made generous contributions to our Safety  
>> Fund. I think we could put those funds to good use by reimbursing  
>> club members who take a first aid course from a recognized  
>> organization. What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your time, and your comments. And remember, be safe out  
>> there!
>>
>>
>>
>> Dom
>>
>>
>>
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