Check out the Limited Edition Swallow. http://www.wallbike.com/brooks/standardsaddles.html My question to Brooks is; if I don't like it, can I return it for a refund?:-) Buckeye -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ccs2.craftech.com/pipermail/dvbc-list/attachments/20070829/a5386960/attachment.html